Achilles and Hector are rival warriors; but, in your opinion, are they both heroes? Discuss your opinion of each character in terms of honor as well as other traits that you feel define a hero. After posting (100 word minimum), read and respond to at least two of your classmates (constructive responses only).
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Jaxon Ramsey
9/5/2014 03:15:42 am
I personally that both of them could be called hero's. That also depends on the standpoint of where they are though, i'm sure the army that Achilles is a part of thinks of him has a hero and same for Hector. It all really depends on the stand point. What really defines a hero can be multiple things, such has being strong, doing something someone can look up to, helping people etc. Both have there strong sides and are full fledged hero's. I mean, they both had a god by there side to help in the fights.
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Cody Manning
9/5/2014 03:22:42 am
Good point perspective is everything however Hector didn't have as much help as Achilles did and Achilles was driven out of a sense of revenge in my opinion that isn't very heroic
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Cody Manning
9/5/2014 03:19:29 am
Achilles and Hector both have heroic tendencies however as to who acted the most like a hero I am going to have to side with Hector. In the end Hector displayed more honor then Achilles and he didn't have the gods favor and yet in the face of astronomical odds he gave it his best effort. When Hector learned that Athena tricked him he didn't moan and whine about abandonment he acted with honor and tried to arrange a truce but Achilles would have none of it. After killing Hector with the help of the gods he preceded to defile his corpse and shame the his opposition even after a fairly evenly matched battle with the gods helping Achilles.
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Jaxon Ramsey
9/5/2014 03:21:50 am
Agreed, very well organized.
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Jaxon Jumonville
9/5/2014 03:27:58 am
That was well written.
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Payton Stephens
9/7/2014 01:37:15 pm
I agree with you that they both had heroic tendencies and that Hector displayed the most heroism.
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Jaxon Jumonville
9/5/2014 03:23:25 am
Yes, they are both heroes. They each have helped their respective countries more than a normal person could. Achilles is rather head strong and full of himself. But wants and gets the best for his country. Hector is a bit more level headed than Achilles but not by much. Achilles is rather brutal as well and not compassionate. You can tell by what Hector says that he he has some honor and wants to respect his rival.
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Jaxon Ramsey
9/5/2014 03:26:51 am
That's very true, Hector seems to show a lot more honor and wants a respectful death, Achilles on the other hand, doesn't seem to care. Both are hero's by there respective countries and what they do for them.
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Raquel Otero
9/7/2014 07:48:43 am
Although I think the descriptions of the two men are quite accurate, I don't believe it makes them heroes. How did either of them really aid their country by dueling each other rather than being a leader for their armies. Neither of them made much of a sacrifice for their countries.
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Jacob Crist
9/5/2014 03:26:18 am
I wouldn't call either of them heroes. Sure, they'e both powerful guys, but the fact that they're both battling trying to kill each other because the're enemies, doesn't give either of them enough reason to call themselves heroes. But it doesn't mean that they're villains either. Athena kinda fueled the fire between the two, so that didn't really help the situation either. They both seem pretty easy to manipulate, and the don't really have any outstanding traits that pop out or could be used to categorize them as heroes. In their own minds, they themselves are the right one, and neither of them are going to admit that they are wrong which just extends their fighting and making it never ending hatred.
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Rebecca Deist
9/5/2014 03:30:22 am
Saying they're neither heroes nor villains is a very good point. I agree with the fact that being strong, even in these stories, doesn't automatically make you a hero.
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Jaxon Jumonville
9/5/2014 03:31:06 am
You do make a good point, not one that I necessarily would agree with, but I do like that you talked about the fueled hatred they had for each other.
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Ellen Yowell
9/6/2014 01:48:04 pm
I agree with you that while both were great warriors, that doesn't necessarily earn them the title of "heroes".
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Rebecca Deist
9/5/2014 03:27:45 am
I think both Achilles and Hector were heroes to the people they were defending; Achilles to the Greek and Hector to the Trojans. In theory, it’s fine to call the two “heroes” but, in truth, neither is really a hero. Hector was power crazed and his intentions in the war were strictly self served. He found honor in conquest and wanted nothing more than to take all the land under the Trojan king’s name, his father’s name. Achilles didn’t fight until his best friend, Patroclus, was killed and then it was only out of revenge that he partook in the battle against Hector. There’s nothing Achilles wanted nothing more than to kick back and watch his own king fail at running his army. [Part of the Iliad not included in this excerpt] He didn’t care about honor, so much as he did pride.
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Ellen Yowell
9/6/2014 01:40:26 pm
I like your insight. I agree with you that fighting on a side is very different that fighting for something.
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Nick Purcell
9/5/2014 03:29:07 am
I believe Achilles is the hero because the gods were on his side. However Hector is the one I vote for because he is the underdog and he shouldn't be able to win. From what I have read I don't believe there is an more noble charter they both mostly act the same they both are just as good at fighting as the other and that's why the gods had to step in because otherwise there would be no winner. Also for hector to live through the battle is amazing he is fighting against a man who is a worthy adversary and a god so I got to give him props for that.
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Cody Manning
9/5/2014 04:44:32 am
well said and an interesting perspective
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Caroline May
9/5/2014 03:29:46 am
In my opinion I think that the they are both heroes, because they are both great warriors fighting for different reasons. Hector is fighting for his country/family as a Trojan, and Achilles is the an officer for the Greek army. However they both are viewed as respectable men for their respective sides. Hector is fighting for his family, and I think that gives him a more sympathetic view. He tries so hard to be seen by his people as an honorable man. I thought that Achilles was brutal. This shows that Hector was a hero in an honorable, respected way, and Achilles was a hero for his brutality. I personally think that a hero is not superman, or batman. I think a hero is someone who stands up for what they believe in, or for someone who cannot stand up for themselves. I think that anyone can be heroic.
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Kylie Shoulders
9/7/2014 01:27:15 pm
I agree with this because they are both heroes but in 2 entirely different ways
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Aarique Anderson
9/5/2014 03:30:10 am
I think that they are both hero's to be honest . I mean there is things that makes the other good or bad then the other But like what Jaxson said . It all does depend on stand of point and hero's can be meant in many types of ways / You can also be a hero in all types of ways . But yes i think that they both are hero's or CAN be hero's .
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Ellen Yowell
9/6/2014 02:02:21 pm
Both Achilles and Hector were viewed as mighty warriors by their comrades. I lean more towards believing that being a mighty warrior doesn't necessarily qualify you as a hero. I think it is interesting that they both failed to support their own troops and turned their backs of them. While they both might have performed heroic acts during the war, in my opinion, neither are heroes because they didn't stand with their comrades; they didn't have their backs at all times. A true hero is genuinely selfless at all times and thinks of others over themselves; neither of these characters possessed that trait, in my opinion.
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Raquel Otero
9/7/2014 07:42:32 am
I agree with this wholeheartedly.They seem much more concerned with their own demons to fight with their men for their respective city.
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Kylie Shoulders
9/7/2014 01:28:35 pm
I agree with your opinion completely!
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Raquel Otero
9/7/2014 07:40:39 am
This is difficult question because it could be said that both men possess heroic qualities such as strength, courage, ect. However, it seems as though both Achilles and Hector are more warriors and soldiers than they are heroes. They are military men from rival places but neither of them spend much time performing heroic deeds for their cities. Both men have all their focus on killing each other that they aren't really directing or looking out for the best interest of their troops. Overall I would say Achilles is the bigger warrior/"hero" because he is stronger mentally and physically.
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Kylie Wiens
9/7/2014 01:00:31 pm
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Kylie Shoulders
9/7/2014 01:31:30 pm
I don't really think either of them deserve the title of a "hero." I mean sure they were both warriors but we're they really truly heroes? Of course as warriors they showed the traits of a hero such as strong, independent, brave, ect. But they were both out to kill each other and that to me doesn't sound like a hero at all. But of course in their minds they are considered heroes against one another.
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Payton Stephens
9/7/2014 01:40:02 pm
I agree with what you say. I believe that everyone has their own meaning of "hero".
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Payton Stephens
9/7/2014 01:32:01 pm
In my opinion, Achilles and Hector are both heroes. However, they are both heroes in their own separate ways. Hector is a true hero that is honorable and fights for the good of his country. Achilles, on the other hand, was also a great warrior by being the winner of the battle. He was mainly concerned with himself and making himself look better. Hector was the better man and showed the most courage even though he lost to Achilles. I am not sure that going to battle to win and kill someone else really makes one a hero. They were both heroes and demanded respect from their own cities and people.
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